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Customer groups, and a minimum order

A school, a pub and somebody ordering their Christmas turkey do not have to be treated the same. Put your customers in groups of your own, choose which of your order types each group can place, and set the least an order has to come to.

What a group is

  • Trade and Public are still your two kinds of customer. A group sits under one of them: Schools under Trade, a Christmas club under Public.
  • A customer is in one group at most. Everyone starts in none, and for them nothing changes.
  • A new group changes nothing by itself. It is the same as Trade, or Public, until you change a row on its page. So you can make a group and put customers in it before deciding what it is for.
  • Nothing changes in Velocity. Groups are Order-Point's own.

Make a group

The Groups page in the admin centre. Under Trade are Schools, with 3 customers and a £30 minimum for delivery, and Care homes, the same as Trade. Under Public is Christmas club, with 86 customers and a sign-up link.
The Groups page. Each group says how many customers are in it and what is different about it.
  1. Open Groups

    In your admin centre, go to Customers and press Groups at the top of the page.

  2. Press Add a group

    Give it a Name, and say whether its customers are Trade customers or Public customers. That choice cannot be changed afterwards: a group only ever holds one kind of customer.

  3. Press Add group

    The group's own page opens, ready for its rules and its customers.

These are the real screens, with a made-up shop.

Say what the group can order

The Christmas club group's page. Regular order is set to Cannot order. Christmas orders is set to Same as Public: can order, with a minimum of their own of £20 on every order.
A Christmas club that places Christmas orders only, with a £20 minimum.

The group's page has a row for each of your order types, under What this group can order. Each row asks two things.

Can they order it?What it does
Same as TradeThe group follows the ticks on the order type itself. This is where every row starts. A Public group says Same as Public.
Can orderThe group can place this order type, even if other trade customers cannot. A Staff order only your own team sees, for example.
Cannot orderThe group is not offered this order type at all. A Christmas club that should not be placing your Regular order, for example.
The least an order must come toWhat it does
Same as TradeThe group has the order type's own minimum, if it has one.
A minimum of their ownType the amount, then choose Delivered orders only or Every order.
No minimumThe group has none, whatever the order type says.

Each Same as choice says what it comes to, such as Same as Trade: can order, so you never have to go and look. Press Save when the rows are right.

Put customers in the group

The Schools group's page with Add customers open. Two customers are ticked, one of them marked In Care homes, and the button reads Add 2 to Schools. Below is the list of customers already in the group.
Adding two customers to Schools. One of them is in Care homes, so they move.
  1. Press Add customers

    On the group's page, under Customers in this group. The list is your trade customers for a Trade group, and your public customers for a Public one.

  2. Tick the ones to add

    Search by name if the list is long. A customer already in another group says so, such as In Care homes: adding them moves them, because a customer is in one group at most.

  3. Press Add to the group

    The button counts them for you: Add 2 to Schools.

  • To take customers out, tick them in the group's list and press Take out of the group. They go back to no group.
  • One customer at a time is quicker from the customer's own page: open them from Customers, go to Group and order rules and choose their Group.
  • When your staff add a new customer on the ordering site, the New customer form offers Group once you have a group of that kind.

A group only takes its own kind of customer. To put a trade customer in a Public group, mark them public first: tick Member of the public under Account on their page. A customer whose kind changes leaves a group of the other kind.

Set a minimum order

A minimum is the least an order has to come to before it can be placed. You can set one in three places, and the nearest one to the customer wins.

Set it onWho it is for
The order typeEveryone who can place that order type. Go to Order types, press Edit, and fill in Minimum order.
A groupThat group's customers, instead of the order type's. On the group's page, choose A minimum of their own.
One customerThat customer, instead of their group's. On their own page, under Group and order rules.
The Regular order type being edited in the admin centre. Minimum order is £50 and Asked of is set to Delivered orders only.
The order type's own minimum: £50, asked of delivered orders only.
  • Asked of says which orders the minimum is for. Delivered orders only lets somebody under it collect instead. Every order holds collections too.
  • It is measured on the order's total as it stands when it is placed. Items sold by weight are cut to about the weight asked for, so if the invoice comes in a little under, nothing happens.
  • The order type's card lists the groups that are different, after Different for. Press one to open that group.
A customer's own page in the admin centre, at Group and order rules. Their group is Schools, and their own rule for Regular order is No minimum.
One customer's own rules. This school is in Schools, but has no minimum of its own.

If your prices are hidden from customers, a minimum can still be set but nobody is held to it on the ordering site. The page says so wherever you set one. It comes into force when you show prices, in Settings.

What your customers see

The checkout on the ordering site. A card headed Not quite enough to order yet says the minimum for delivery is £50, the order comes to about £38.20, so £11.80 to go. Under it are Add to the order and Or collect it instead, and the Place order button is greyed out.
  • An order type that is not theirs is not offered. They never see it, so there is nothing to explain.
  • Under the minimum, they are told how far off they are. The basket says so as they shop, and the checkout says it in full: The minimum for delivery is £50. Yours comes to about £38.20, so £11.80 to go.
  • Place order waits until the order is big enough. Add to the order takes them back to your products.
  • Or collect it instead is offered when the minimum is for delivered orders only and they could collect.

When your staff place the order

The checkout on the ordering site, signed in as staff. A card headed Place it anyway? says the minimum for delivery is £50 and this order comes to about £38.20, which is £11.80 under, with the buttons Yes, carry on and Not now.

The rules are for customers ordering for themselves. Your own staff, taking an order for a customer, are told and can carry on.

  • Staff are offered every order type. One the customer cannot place themselves is marked Not usually open to this customer.
  • They are asked once. If the order is under the minimum, or of an order type that is not the customer's, pressing Place order asks Place it anyway? Press Yes, carry on.
  • The order says so. In your admin centre the Orders page marks it Under minimum or Not their usual type, and the order's own page says by how much and who placed it.
  • A repeat order is never held back. If one comes in under the minimum it is placed, and marked the same way. A customer is held to the minimum when they set a repeat order up.

A Public group can have a link of its own, for a poster, a post or a message. Somebody who signs up with it becomes a customer in that group straight away, instead of in no group.

The Christmas club group's page, at Its own sign-up link. It shows a QR code, the link's address, 86 sign-ups, and a button to switch the link off.
The Christmas club's own link, with the code to print on a poster.
The sign-up page on the ordering site, reached from the group's link. Under the shop's name it says You're joining Christmas club, above the usual name, email and password boxes.
  1. Open the group

    From Customers, then Groups. It has to be a Public group: everyone who signs themselves up is a public customer.

  2. Press Make a sign-up link

    Under Its own sign-up link. The link and its QR code appear. Nothing is open until you press this.

  3. Share it

    Copy the link into a post or a message, or put the QR code on a poster. Whoever follows it sees You're joining Christmas club and signs up as usual.

  4. See who came

    The group's page counts the sign-ups, and the Sign-ups page shows the group's name beside each one.

  • It is its own switch. The link works whether or not your ordinary sign-up page is switched on, so you can take club members and nobody else.
  • Switch the link off when you are finished with it. Anyone who follows it afterwards is told it is no longer in use. A link you make later is a new one, so an old poster does not start working again.
  • If you approve sign-ups by hand, somebody from a group's link waits on the Sign-ups page like anyone else, and joins the group once you approve them.

People who sign themselves up collect their orders, so the link takes nobody while collection is switched off in Settings. The group's page tells you when that is so.

Questions

I made a group and nothing changed.

That is right. A group is the same as Trade, or Public, until you change a row on its page and press Save.

A customer says an order type has gone.

Open them from Customers and look at Group and order rules. It shows their group and what each order type is set to for them. A rule of their own wins over their group's.

Can a customer be in two groups?

No. Adding them to a second group moves them to it.

What happens if I delete a group?

Its customers go back to no group and follow Trade or Public again. Any rules a customer has of their own stay. The page asks before it deletes.

Does a minimum include VAT?

It is compared with the order's total as your customer sees it on the ordering site, worked out from the prices they are shown.

Can a customer get round the minimum?

Not on the ordering site. Only your own staff can place an order under it, and the order records that they did.

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